
最近,在國外石油網站OilPro上發起了一個話題討論:“在過去的三年里,每年的關于氣候的年度調查都會討論這個問題:油氣行業對氣候變化有何影響?真相不得而知,但是顯而易見,大家的意見大相徑庭。
油氣行業的發展到底對氣候變化有多大影響呢?許多人,特別是歐洲人,認為油氣行業確實加劇了氣候變得更加惡劣,對于油公司來說這是一個亟待解決的問題。但是其他的人則認為導致氣候變化的主要原因是森林遭過度砍伐,指責油公司只是轉移為了轉移注意力。那么油氣行業能否可以忽略這個問題,還是說就算是其他的活動導致了氣候的變化,這樣的問題是否已經開始威脅到了油氣行業的商業模式?”小編搜集整理了國外網友的評論,基本上國外網友的觀點可分為以下三種:
一些網友認為,油氣行業有責任,但不是唯一需要承擔責任的
Ketiboa Blay:這個問題似乎是在問“氣候變化就是油氣行業造成的嗎”?不可否認,油氣燃燒和原油泄漏都導致了環境的污染,對氣候的變化有影響。但如果說只是油氣行業造成的,則是非常片面的,畢竟早在油氣使用之前氣候就開始變化了。當人們開始改造世界、進行農業工業活動、砍伐樹林、改變地貌的時候,就開始影響氣候了。人類早晚會意識到他們對環境氣候的負面影響。是的,油氣加速了氣候的變化,但它并不是唯一的因素。
Mike Schmidt:我雖然沒有從事氣候研究,不過我還是談一下我的觀點:
我們是否在經歷全球變暖和氣候變化?是的,這是由于二氧化碳和甲烷等溫室氣體變多造成的。
這種變化是人為造成的嗎?答案是肯定的。
是油氣行業造成的嗎?只是部分而已,而且就這個問題而言,油氣行業也僅僅是個次要原因。這里有一些其他重要的原因,農業活動、過度砍伐等等,可社會對這些行為卻不以為意,但是終究,烴類物質的燃燒絕對是一個因素。
它只是間接的影響嗎?油氣生產活動不可避免的提高了甲烷水平,而甲烷的溫室效應比二氧化碳強許多。油氣生產活動并沒有導致二氧化碳水平的上升,但是油氣的燃燒增加了二氧化碳的量。油氣的供應與需求是相互關聯的,正如我們最近經歷的油氣需求的增加一樣。
油氣行業真的能夠忽略這個問題嗎?當然不可以。這主要有以下幾方面的原因:(1)?氣候變化是一個影響全球的重要問題。它不僅會淹沒海岸線,還會引發干旱,造成社會動蕩,甚至誘發ISIS這樣組織的形成和發展。(2) 其他導致氣候變化的因素并沒有改變他們使用油氣的習慣,這里油氣行業是需要承擔責任的。(3) 即使油氣行業說服自己對這個問題沒有責任,但是其他的人們并不會這樣認為(小編:非常正確)。我們的生產活動需要獲得社會的認同,沒有了社會的認同,無論我們認為是否合理,我們都將舉步維艱。(4) 我們行業有能力解決這個問題,也亟待解決這個問題。所以,我們對此是要負責任的。
另一些國外網友認為氣候變化的主要原因不是人為可控的
Kosta Leontaritis:我有過大量關于能源和熱力學的研究及建模經驗。研究結果表明,就連考慮油氣行業需要為地球氣候的持續變化負責這一想法都是荒謬的,更不必說試圖嚴格地去證明這一命題了。
對于現在的地球氣候變化,我們已經知道了其中有許多人們無法控制的主導因素。這樣一來,想要科學地證明油氣行業確實需要為氣候變化負責這一結論則是非常不現實的。
就連上面Mike Schmidt提到的“森林砍伐”,與太陽、星球、星系的影響相比,它們對于氣候的變化都是一個微小的影響因素。所以對于所說的“油氣行業加劇了氣候變化”,大家是否能舉出一些讓人信服的模擬、計算或者證據來證明油氣行業的影響比太陽、星球、星系的影響來說更大呢?
讓我們拋開直覺、莽撞、甚至政治偏見來討論這個問題。支持這個命題的人們需要提供一個科學詳盡的能源平衡模型來證明他們的理論。亞里士多德曾經說過:“……政治學科總是試圖去解決那些邏輯和技術無法解決的問題。只要大多數的人投票決定就可以非常簡單地對這些問題定論……”我認為地球的氣候變化是可以進行技術說明的,而油氣行業“加劇”了氣候變化這一控訴本質上是政治問題,與技術毫無關系。人們不能用政治來對這樣高度復雜和重要的問題下定論。作為一名科學家我認為有一天,也許在遙遠的未來,人們可以更清楚的意識到,油氣行業對氣候變化的影響,與太陽、星球和星系的影響相比,差距到底有多大。只有到那時人們才能正確地認識這個問題。
Robert Ellsworth:好了,現在我們不要再問這樣的問題,還怪到油氣行業的頭上了。對于這個問題,油氣行業基本沒有什么可指責的。這就是個政治問題,最好讓艾伯特·戈爾和奧巴馬來回答。氣候的變化主要是由太陽表面的活動控制的。
當太陽上活躍的太陽黑子比較少、或者沒有時,太陽放射出的熱量和能量都比黑子活動劇烈時要少。太陽黑子的增加和減少是呈周期變化的,如果我沒有記錯的話,這個周期大約為200年。所以,每200年我們會要經歷一次變化。當太陽的表面擾動越來越強烈時,我們地球也會變得越來越熱、冰川開始融化。當活動減弱時地球將再次結冰。當然,農作物也會受到影響。這些“氣候變化”不是人類造成的,而是太陽造成的。在過去幾年內北極的冰川融化增加了20%,并且在今年冬天這一比例還會繼續升高。
事實上,我們已經處于黑子活動減弱的階段了,未來十年甚至更長時間內,冬天會比我們想象的更冷。同時,全球可能還會有更多更嚴重的地震。由于一些仍待解釋的原因,當太陽周期發生時,地球就會經歷更多嚴重的地震破壞。日本的地震就基本上剛好發生在太陽黑子開始減弱的階段。
所以,我們在清理溫室氣體時所投入的人力物力統統沒用。早在2007年,NASA和全世界的科學家們就在告訴政客們地球會變冷這個結論,現在看來是時候告訴大家了。
如果你對此有疑問,就抽點時間多做點功課。自人類可以記錄歷史以來,氣候變化這種循環已經經歷過10次了。如果這些科學家們是正確的,而我相信我們的溫室氣體鼓吹者都是傻子,那么我們現在正處于一個太陽“平臺期”,沒有活躍的黑子,所以未來將會變得非常非常冷。
更有網友認為,根本沒有氣候變暖這回事,這都是人們編出來的
Beverly Jernigan:當然沒有氣候變暖這件事兒。事實上,全球氣候變化都是人們編出來的,編出來的!
目前關于氣候變換所涉及到的行業價值大約為每年1.5萬億美元,大約等于40億美元一天。如果真的有人相信這個謊言,那么他們肯定是獲利者。氣候變化理論的宣傳者們需要有人來投資,所以他們選擇了油氣行業。美國作家Upton Sinclair曾說:“如果一個人的薪水是由一些他不明白的事情決定的,那么要他搞明白這個事情是非常困難的?!?/span>
Patti Taylor:把人類對環境的影響稱為“氣候變化”是一個既有趣又讓人鬧心的事。對我來說,自從地球形成后,氣候就一直在變化,有些是非常劇烈的,而且與人類也沒有關系。我認為我們太自以為是地認為我們可以控制氣候變化。我們可以做的只是更好的控制我們對環境的影響。
怎么樣,有沒有腦洞大開?對于這個問題的答案,眾說紛紜。一直以來,有很多人認為油氣行業的發展嚴重影響了氣候的變化,事實并不一定如此。如今在應對全球氣候變化挑戰的道路上,各行各業所做的努力,相比于太陽、星系自然變化的影響,可以說是微乎其微。僅靠油氣行業無法解決氣候變化問題,在控制對環境的影響方面,但我們仍要攜手共同努力,來盡可能減少未來整個行業對氣候變化帶來的損失和影響。
來自/OilPro ? ? ?譯者/周詩雨 ? ? ?編輯/Wang Yue
We’ve been asking questions about this in our annual survey for the past three years and opinions are split. Many – especially in Europe – say it does contribute and the issue should be a high priority for oil co’s; others say the real problem is deforestation and blaming oil companies for climate change is a distraction. Can the oil industry really afford to ignore the issue, or does it threaten to disrupt the business model even if other activities are to blame?
Ketiboa Blay:
The problem seems to be in the question “Is the Oil Industry Responsible for Climate Change?” The question seems to suggestion that the industry is the only factor of climate change. Yes, the process of production which burns and exposes harmful gases into the atmosphere; oil spills that destroy ecological endowments; and the use of end products such fuels and oils that pollute the atmosphere, all contribute to climate change, But it is absolutely wrong to blame the phenomenon solely on the Oil and Gas industry. Climate change started long, long ago even before oil and gas exploration and use. Once man came unto the world scene and commenced agricultural production, settlement and infrastructure construction, forestry depletion and landscape changes and their accompanying climate issues also commenced. It was only a matter of time that humans would realise their negative impact on the environment climate-wise. Yes, oil and gas are contributing to the speeding up of climate change, but they are not the only culprits.
Mike Schmidt:
You’ve asked for opinions. I’m not a climate researcher, so that’s all I’ve got. Here goes:
Is there global warming and resulting climate change? Yes. It is the result of increased levels of greenhouse gases, particularly carbon dioxide and methane.
Is it anthropogenic? Yes
Is the oil and gas industry the cause? Only in part, and even there, it is primarily an indirect cause. There are other important causes, e.g. agricultural practices, deforestation, etc., but they have better P.R. But the consumption of hydrocarbons is definitely a contributing factor.
Only indirectly? While the production of oil and gas inevitably leads to increased methane levels, it is the increased levels of carbon dioxide that is particularly concerning. Creating a supply of oil and gas does not increase the levels of carbon dioxide; the demand for burning oil and gas increases the levels of carbon dioxide. Creating a supply is moderately correlated to creating a demand, as our recent experience with crude oil prices demonstrates.
Can the oil industry really afford ignore the issue? No, and for several reasons: 1) Climate change is a global problem with enormous impacts. Not just flooding coastlines (pity the people of Miami and most of the third world), but droughts that cause massive social dislocations and create the circumstances that allow ISIS to form and exist. 2) The fact that there are other contributing factors doesn’t change that the consumption of oil and gas is a contributor. There is a role for the oil and gas industry to play. 3) Even if the oil and gas industry can convince itself that is has no responsibility to address this problem, most of the world sees it differently. We operate with the permission of society. Lose that permission, and we don’t operate, whether we think that is reasonable or not. 4) Our industry has the skills to address this problem. It is a problem that desperately needs to be addressed. So, we have a duty to do something about it.
My opinions, for what they are worth.
Kosta Leontaritis:
My extensive research experience in energy and thermodynamics including modeling of these phenomena tells me that even considering the possibility that the Oil Industry may be responsible for lasting climate change of the Earth is ludicrous, let alone trying to prove it rigorously.
There are so many known and dominant factors beyond human control that could be responsible for the Earth’s current climate change that make it impossible for one to scientifically prove that the Oil Industry is indeed responsible for the climate change.
Even the deforestation mentioned above is a midget factor on the Earth’s climate compared to the impact the sun, planets, and galaxy have. So I respectfully ask all those who say that the Oil Industry “contributes” to climate change to provide convincing simulations/calculations and evidence that compares the “contribution” of the Oil Industry to that of the sun, planets, and galaxy.
If we are to take this topic out of the realm of gut-feel and hip-shooting or more accurately our of the realm of politics, the supporters of this idea should provide a detailed scientific energy balance model proving their case. The great Aristotle, whom I call the inventor of Politics, writes in his book Ethics and Politics that …political science tries to settle issues that can have no logical or technical explanation. People simply agree to settle these issues by majority vote. …. I submit that the cause of the Earth’s climate change has a technical explanation. The charge that the Oil Industry “contributes” to climate change is technically irrelevant and political in nature. Humanity cannot decide such highly technical and important issues using politics. As a scientist I believe that some day, probably in the long distant future, humans will advance to the point that they can determine accurately the “contribution” of the Oil Industry to that of the sun, planets, and galaxy. Only then this issue will be truly settled.
Robert Ellsworth:
Well ,it is time to stop asking a question that puts blame on the oil and gas industry for something they have little if any blame for producing. This is a political question and is best answered by fools like Al Gore and Obama.
Climate change is controlled primarily by the Suns’ surface activity.
The amount of heat and energy radiated by the sun when there are few or no sunspots “Bubbling Away” is far less than when sunspot activity is high and there are many sunspots. Sunspots occur in cycles that increase and decrease over time, typically 200 years if my memory is correct. So, about every 200 years we have change. When there are lots of surface disturbances on the Sun we get hotter weather and ice melts etc. When the activity falls off the ice freezes, crops (primarily grain) are affected and global temperatures fall. These “Climate Changes” are not caused by mankind but by the sun. In fact in the last couple years the polar ice at the North Pole has increased by about 25% and appears set to grow again this coming winter.
In fact we are at a slow period of sunspots now and winter weather can be expected to become colder than expected for the next decade or longer. What is also to be expected are more large and serious earthquakes around the world. For some reasons yet to be fully explained when these cycles occur the world experiences a higher number of real nasty earthquakes. Case in point Japans big shaker which almost put them out of the nuke power station business occurred at the beginning of this latest Minimum, as the period of fewer sunspots is called, started.
So, this money and effort we are spending to clean up the greenhouse gases is pure BS. NASA and scientists worldwide have been telling ours and their political hacks about this cool down since early 2007 and now it appears to be on us.
If you have any doubt on this, take some time and look into it. The history on this goes back tens of cycles for as long as man has recorded history. Right now we are into a “Flat Sun” period with no Bubbling sunspots and it is going to get cold, real cold, if all these real scientists are right and our “Greenies” and fools are wrong, which I believe is the case.
Beverly Jernigan:
No. However, global warming/climate change is man-made. Man made it up!
The global climate change industry is worth an annual $1.5 trillion dollars, that’s the equivalent of $4 billion dollars a day. While there might be some ill informed people who actually believe this lie, most are profiteers. The climate change propagandists need someone to line their pockets, they have chosen our industry. Upton Sinclair said, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” God help us all.
Patti Taylor:
It is both interesting and annoying that the term adopted to describe human-created environmental impact is “climate change”. Seems to me there has been climate change since the formation of the earth; some very violent and not man-made. I believe we are foolhardy to think we can control climate change. What we can do is better manage environmental impacts.
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